tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post3834924458183523692..comments2023-05-14T16:42:20.001+01:00Comments on Blogtor Who: The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon - What Did YOU Think?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-71049632150488999402011-05-03T17:15:06.785+01:002011-05-03T17:15:06.785+01:00Moffat clearly does not get the spirit of Doctor W...Moffat clearly does not get the spirit of Doctor Who. <br /><br />1) The Doctor kills and endorses violence when necessary. He does not, however, say that killing people is sexy. He sometimes acts without mercy, but not because "it's not Christmas". Stop being so damn glib about violence, Moffat. <br /><br />2) The Doctor inspires humans to be better than they are, and makes his companions braver and more independent. Moffat's Doctor on the other hand is making Amy and River seem more messed-up and dependent on him the more contact they have with him. River is not a strong character: her whole life is centred around the Doctor. And the same goes for Rory. Why does the Doctor encourage his self-doubts and insecurity about Amy when she calls for help? <br /><br />3) The Doctor is sometimes irresponsible. But would he really abandon a child in danger for no good reason? Again, stop being glib, Moffat. It doesn't look cool, it just looks cold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-68472464349479627692011-05-03T16:24:10.182+01:002011-05-03T16:24:10.182+01:00Moffat is walking a very fine line between weaving...Moffat is walking a very fine line between weaving a really good story arc and totally screwing up the Doctor. His one or two story arcs from the past were great. But now, its starting to become a mess with too many open ends and continuity problems. I think the acting is great and Matt really seems to capture the essence of the doctor. But it feels like too much is trying to be done and carried over from story to story without really knowing how to do it. And I don't mind a scary episode or two or three, but now, my kids who love doctor who can't watch it because it gives them nightmares. Come on Maffat! Its like what Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels. And I'm sorry, but to me, the Silence are seem to be nothing more than the variation of the angels. They were cool and original. But I see the same "hook" with the silence. Angels = don't look away or...... Silence = don't look away or..... They'll never be Daleks. I'm just not impressed and it seems like he's changing the doctor for the worse. I really hope he doesn't stay on too much longer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-16648097083260632472011-05-03T13:44:58.936+01:002011-05-03T13:44:58.936+01:00...Also! Sorry to all if I get too intense... but ......Also! Sorry to all if I get too intense... but I just really love this show! Please feel free to tell me I don't know what I am talking about!!! :)Dannybouynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-71890121948782022002011-05-02T15:11:45.552+01:002011-05-02T15:11:45.552+01:00Yes... true, to paraphrase someone who posted on a...Yes... true, to paraphrase someone who posted on another forum a while back: The Doctor's moral stance is completely consistent in that it is alright to kill when he says it is and not alright when he says it is. :DDannybouynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-86468867159323596362011-05-02T14:40:11.111+01:002011-05-02T14:40:11.111+01:00Well, there was the rat, but he also killed in Ima...Well, there was the rat, but he also killed in Image of the Fendahl and Invasion of Time. But I do remember him using a gun a few times, either attempting to kill (Invisible Enemy) or to shoot them in a way so as not to kill but stop them from doing harm (Planet of Evil). Thing is though, every Doctor uses brutal violence when the situation really calls for it, like above. So I don't think any Doctor would have minded River's gun use so much (Ten might have had a small fit, though) because they probably would have seen almost any scenario end in a fight.Misternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-31370707701423054712011-05-02T10:09:37.151+01:002011-05-02T10:09:37.151+01:00Oh and when Tom used Scorby's gun to make a ge...Oh and when Tom used Scorby's gun to make a getaway in Seeds of Doom,but he didn't use it and told Sarah he never would have.<br /><br />I don't buy the connection between screen violence and actual violence. My point is not that violence shouldn't exist on DW it is in regard to where the morality of the question is placed in the narrative of the story. I believe that in DW some of what would, I think quite commonly, be considered the greatest episodes of the show have placed the morality in the foreground. This is in keeping with some of the greatest works of literature in the last centuries, Dovtoevsky for example, morality in the age of science and reason, i.e. now that we have killed god with science how do we as a society arbitrate our own morality. Much classic science fiction literature has this as an undercurrent and no matter what criticisms one might lay at the door of DW writers over the years it must be said they have been a group of very intelligent people drawing from some of the most important literary themes our culture has. Which is why imho it is so awesome. So, my point was not that morality was absent from the recent episode but that it was not in the foreground. It was brushed over. The 11th's second chance was almost a cursory event in his victory monolouge. The actual nature of the threat from this enemy was brushed over, or not reveled, leaving us with a genocide that seems to have no specific basis beyond occupation-revolution-loss of will. Now loss of will is an interesting subject that could be a whole episode or more on its own, but we never got there, all the time was spent on adventure and romance. I also have a problem with the scene when the doctor is complicit in River Song blowing away a dozen silence despite the fact that no specific threat had been made to them. Well, the doctor didn't really let them get a word in edgeways!<br /><br />Look the episodes "feel" great, truly wonderful, and I think that the writing is in essence good, and the acting is good, but this is not what I would describe as completely in sync with the greatest moments of the show.<br /><br />(i guess the rant wasn't over :p )<br />Oh and I just realised I van put my name in without a password... sweet... blogtorwho rules.Dannybouynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-61270785816257838022011-05-02T08:49:14.556+01:002011-05-02T08:49:14.556+01:00You don't mean the giant rat in Talons do you?...You don't mean the giant rat in Talons do you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-51287559601553254502011-05-02T08:35:04.120+01:002011-05-02T08:35:04.120+01:00When did Tom kill with a gun?When did Tom kill with a gun?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-10933773763961132702011-05-01T23:05:15.602+01:002011-05-01T23:05:15.602+01:00Those are good points, Nelson. You're right ab...Those are good points, Nelson. You're right about the second chance. I'd forgotten that part. Well said.Sandiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08439303528712333600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-17428518314039847142011-05-01T23:01:27.062+01:002011-05-01T23:01:27.062+01:00It's clear what's going on...Rory is a Tim...It's clear what's going on...Rory is a Timelord who has hidden his identity with that machine linked to a pocket watch. The little girl is Amy and Rory's daughter....... who turns out to be none other than the Timelady, River Song. Simple.<br /><br />;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-85088038876516220042011-05-01T22:30:51.334+01:002011-05-01T22:30:51.334+01:00To the anonymous above: You know "Tom of the ...To the anonymous above: You know "Tom of the Bakers" killed with a gun more times than Colin ever did? Tom was one of the worst Doctors when it came to using violence, especially guns.Misternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-13369222361711422882011-05-01T21:31:01.754+01:002011-05-01T21:31:01.754+01:00Having watched and enjoyed the opening two part st...Having watched and enjoyed the opening two part story I must express my surprise that people feel the story dark for children. Especially considering we have seen a dark Doctor on several previous occasions (let's face it, he did the ultimate by destroying the Time Lords). The children I know (4, 5, 6 and 7 year olds) loved the opening two part story and weren't scared. In fact they were cheering the Doctor in leading the "revolution". <br /><br />I'd also like to point out that nowhere is it mentioned the entire race of Silence/Silents gets killed. It's highly unlikely that all of their race in on Earth and also it's quite possible that they manage to leave the earth when they realise that they will be killed. The Doctor is simply helping a planet defend it's way of life.Carrienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-63334252605844127582011-05-01T21:28:31.759+01:002011-05-01T21:28:31.759+01:00It's not that they were different, it's th...It's not that they were different, it's that they were legitimately going to take over the human race. They wanted to take back the planet, and even said "your will is ours." That's... well, that's not good.<br /><br />Besides, the Doctor did kind of give them a second chance. He told them all he wanted to do was to accept their total surrender. He even said having two hearts was useless unless he could be forgiving every now and then for murderers and evil geniuses. They simply wouldn't back down. Plus, yeah, they did pretty much tell us to kill them on sight.<br /><br />And I'm almost positive the Doctor still hates guns, he just likes that River isn't afraid to use hers when she needs to. He really shouldn't like that she can shoot when she has to, but he definitely likes River. Sort of like "she can make her own decision when it needs to be made, and she can handle herself quite well." Strong, independent, clever woman; who doesn't love that? <br /><br />Oh yeah, and I loved the episodes. Actors, writing, and directing all quite top-notch with a crazy/amazing ending. Looking forward to how the last five minutes plays out in future episodes.<br /><br />If I forget something, or messed anything up, let me know. Also, hell yeah Canton!Nelson WJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09456394710666964003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-61631708563355686552011-05-01T20:44:59.671+01:002011-05-01T20:44:59.671+01:00PLUS! WHO THE HECK WRITES ON THEIR OWN FACE WHEN T...PLUS! WHO THE HECK WRITES ON THEIR OWN FACE WHEN THEY WANT TO KEEP NOTES!!!!<br /><br />(Ok rant over now)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-21785374178865522492011-05-01T20:34:25.259+01:002011-05-01T20:34:25.259+01:00Yeah Sandie! We dont even know what the silence wa...Yeah Sandie! We dont even know what the silence want - we didn't get told, neither did the doctor - but we didn't like how they were doing it so kill them. Moral to the story: if something is different and we you don't like it react with violence (if not genecide)... Doctor Who really will generate transatlantic appeal now... man... I am depressed now. That was so wrong on so many levels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-67400241271855646132011-05-01T20:30:10.141+01:002011-05-01T20:30:10.141+01:00Didn't he even slip in some comment about kind...Didn't he even slip in some comment about kind of liking guns??? What the deuce!?! Tom Baker would never have stood for it!!! Of course Colin of the Bakers did once shoot some one with a gun... I forget which episode... the one in spain... I think (was there one in spain or am i dreaming) whatever one that was... they were near a tree at the timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-2090256855170484082011-05-01T20:27:31.450+01:002011-05-01T20:27:31.450+01:00Remember how Tennant's Doctor would insist the...Remember how Tennant's Doctor would insist the "enemy" be given "one more chance" to do the right thing? Not sure if that applies to the Silence since we don't really know exactly WHAT they've been doing. Obviously, THEY think we should be killing them so they must think they are not doing us any good.Sandiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08439303528712333600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-78917339351489006232011-05-01T20:01:06.265+01:002011-05-01T20:01:06.265+01:00Yeah I agree with you Sandie regarding the destruc...Yeah I agree with you Sandie regarding the destruction of the race, hopefully there is fallout from such a huge thing. I think since doctor who became attack-action doctor who a lot of the morality that one would find as a main theme to some of the great moments (e.g. Genesis of the Daleks) in the doctor's history gets brushed over in favour of adventure story-like success of the hero. The Doctor certainly shouldn't be happy and gloat about destroying the silence who technically have as much right as we do to be here, even if they are destructive. The 11th doctor gloats a bit too much imo, i didn't like his big "who wants to be first" thing in pandorica either. He should avoid confrontation with ingenuity, and certainly not revel in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-21722045323594031572011-05-01T19:50:27.673+01:002011-05-01T19:50:27.673+01:00The problem I have with shows that have a particul...The problem I have with shows that have a particular theme (or themes) that run throughout a season or more, is that if you want to rewatch the show on DVD, it only makes sense if you watch them in order, to get the full impact, and how many of us have that much time at a stretch to watch an entire season? Not that you can't watch individual episodes, but to get the full impact. <br />I agree this was rather a dark episode, the supposed killing of a race (though that is not a definite outcome), for young children. There will be questions on the morality of it since we won't know if that is actually what happened for a time.Sandiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08439303528712333600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-66819165619485024792011-05-01T19:41:45.666+01:002011-05-01T19:41:45.666+01:00p.s i meant I think the production aesthetic is th...p.s i meant I think the production aesthetic is the best of all NEW SERIES seasons so far. (Nothing will eclipse Philip Hinchcliffe era for this little black duck!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-42110488288575751382011-05-01T19:39:15.544+01:002011-05-01T19:39:15.544+01:00I can`t agree with poor acting and poor writing, a...I can`t agree with poor acting and poor writing, and I think the production aesthetic is the best of all seasons so far. I feel it's getting darker and I always like DW when it is a bit noir-esque. But, having said that I am not sold on these story arcs in general and think they have been realized none too successfully. I blame the RTD era, silence has been falling since the over-hyped and sloppy end of time. That era brought a lot of these soap opera-ish arcs into the series and I feel Moff is doing a good job mopping up RTDs left over threads. But there is too much, the arcs detract from basic good old story telling imho, which should be a fundament. Perhaps there is just too many running simultaneously, and I am happy to be proved wrong by an epic season six where all this "stuff" finds confluence. In general too I am not really down with the pacing of the show these days, I like the two parters more, but again this one was great to watch until suddenly bang bang bang and its all resolved, but not really at all, and I am generally left rather unfulfilled. But again,I think this is because of the demands of the story arc on the layout of the episode. My opinions are are multifaceted though, I think Matt Smith is on of the best doctor's there has been on many levels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-24646075661386480412011-05-01T18:53:32.815+01:002011-05-01T18:53:32.815+01:00No-one brave enough to say they didn't like it...No-one brave enough to say they didn't like it. OK.Keep telling people how fantastic it is and everyone begins to believe it. Playing right into the hands of Mr. Moffat so that poor writing, poor acting in any future episodes is acceptable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-37170277632467937072011-05-01T17:12:13.011+01:002011-05-01T17:12:13.011+01:00Brilliant opening episodes. I'm very happy we...Brilliant opening episodes. I'm very happy we seem to be moving away from the campy feeling of the RTD era. Love it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-74181541550172889922011-05-01T16:36:46.273+01:002011-05-01T16:36:46.273+01:00I'm utterly intrigued. We have a full-blown J...I'm utterly intrigued. We have a full-blown Jigsaw Puzzle Plot here; at the moment, all we have are a bunch of random pieces scattered over the table-top. I'm really looking forward to finding out how they all fit together.<br /><br />The Moff era is certainly looking a lot different to the RTD era.<br /><br />The orphanage scene was fantastic, so creepy. A very effective use of a point-of-view character; we only see what she <i>remembers</i> experiencing. The Silents' MO means that entire cast are now unreliable narrators.<br /><br />That was one heck of a surprise ending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2272431515083873489.post-84683452700797619932011-05-01T16:11:09.101+01:002011-05-01T16:11:09.101+01:00Is Dr Who in Danger . .
of becoming DR. What!!??....Is Dr Who in Danger . .<br /> of becoming DR. What!!??..#!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com